Couple Situational Calls --- Please advise

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Couple Situational Calls --- Please advise

Post  NYRef on Mon Jan 21, 2013 11:27 pm

Dear Veteran Refs,

A couple situations I would like to ask to get your opinions.

1st) Two wrestlers are in the neutral position. Wrestler A takes Wrestler B to the mat in which B is on his butt supported by his hands, and wrestler A is between Wrestler B's legs with his hands locked around Wrestler's B waist. I award, "TWO, Takedown!" --- I wait two seconds, then signal Locked hands. Wrestler B was not in criteria. Coach of Wrestler B takes me to the table. I said, he was not in criteria coach, I gave him time to let go after I awarded two. Was this the right call?

2nd) A coach would repeatedly yell, "keep your hands locked" to his wrestler after I make the locked hands call. Is this good coaching or unsportsmanlike conduct on the coach? I didn't call unsportsmanlike, but it was in the back of my head. As a coach, it makes sense, why let go of them if I'm all ready going to get hit with a 1 point penalty, might as well keep them locked and only give up one instead of two. Thoughts?

Any help or feedback would be greatly appreciated. Thanks so much!

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Post  NYRef on Tue Jan 22, 2013 8:55 pm

Got anything for me?!?!!?

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Post  matref0 on Wed Jan 23, 2013 6:13 pm

#1. I sounds like you called it correct. I normally give a little more reaction time in these type of situations because the wrestler that was just awarded control may not realize he was awarded control. I also believe your situation requires some vocalization by the referee. My mechanic is to signal "2" and get in the ear of the wrestler and say "Green, you've got 2 or you've got the takedown or your now in control." If he fails to unlock after all that then I feel the locked hands call is warranted.

#2. Never had that happen before but I don't think it is unsportsmanlike. If the coach told a wrestler to drop to both knees from a standing position to bait a locked hands call, I'd agree with unsportsmanlike. The question I would ask is how long to you hold your locked hands signal before stopping? I see a lot of officials hold the signal for many seconds when nothing is really going on. I don't signal locked hands unless the defensive wrestler is in the midst of attempting a scoring maneuver. If I see a lock and there is nothing going on, I blow the whistle immediately, show the table the technical violation signal, then the locked hands signal and then award a point and reset the wrestlers. If a scoring maneuver is in progress, I'll let it go and determine if it looks like it is going to be successful or not.
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Post  NYRef on Wed Jan 23, 2013 7:14 pm

Thank you!!!! I wish this was more ACTIVE !!! Great response!!!!


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Post  matref0 on Thu Jan 24, 2013 1:02 am

NYRef wrote:Thank you!!!! I wish this was more ACTIVE !!! Great response!!!!


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